Apr 15, 2014

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My Thoughts Regarding Dr. Charles F. Gritzner’s Lecture

When I am listening to a lecturer, I do not usually find myself thinking “Is it possible that this man works for the CIA?” I acknowledge that such a thought sounds paranoid. I can honestly say that this thought had really never before occurred to me during a live lecture until the evening I sat listening to Distinguished Professor Emeritus (SDSU) Charles F. Gritzner’s presentation at the Jesse A. Marcel Library on April 1, 2014. Dr. Gritzner’s lecture, titled The Geography of the (So-Called) Paranormal – Where, Why There, and Why Care?, touched on a dizzying array of topics commonly associated with the paranormal. Mention was made of “ghost lights” (Gritzner’s paranormal topic of research interest), UFOs, voodoo, chupacabras, exorcism, crop circles, mother-ships (said, literally, backhandedly), “whistlers” (lightning bolts apparently originating in the Marion Islands of S. Africa and apparently, at one time proposed as a natural explanation for the crop circles appearing on the Salisbury Plane of the U.K.), the Marfa Lights, the Maco, NC Lights, several other “ghost lights”, and the Loch Ness monster – and all in 1.5 hours! We were shown an example of how plastic bags can become “UFOs” under the proper meteorological conditions – a valuable reminder.

When speaking about crop circles, Gritzner presented only one example of a “famous” (who knew?) 1990 crop circle which took the form of a modified question mark and was discovered near the base of a grain elevator in Leola, SD. Gritzner opined that said crop circle was most likely made by humans due to the fact that the formation was suspiciously positioned at the base of tall grain elevators specifically for the benefit of the press and their cameras. Perhaps he is correct, but the point of his entire presentation is that we, as “True Believers”, should not jump to conclusions. Here is what ICCRA reported about this crop circle:

“A 80-foot long by 30-foot wide “reversed question mark” design surrounded by three rectangular ‘bars’ 5-feet in diameter arranged on the points of an equilateral triangle. The plants were bent over two inches above the ground. When discovered, the field had no tracks, nor were there any broken or kinked stalks of wheat in the circle formation. Eyewitness report only”.

Gritzner’s basic advice with regard to discerning the provenance of apparently ALL crop circles was matter-of-factly stated as: “follow the money”. He implied that many crop circle researchers were simply “in it for the money”, and in this group he included the name of Colin Andrews. Having met and spoken with Colin Andrews, and having listened to him lecture about crop circles on 2 occasions, I am absolutely, 100 % certain that Colin Andrews is not into crop circle research “for the money”. Andrews has dedicated much of his adult life to trying to unravel the mystery behind the crop circles, almost to the point of his own financial ruin. Colin Andrews does not deserve to be impugned as a scam artist. Also curiously absent during Gritzner’s presentation was any mention of the brilliant and very difficult-to-organize scientific work accomplished and published by Nancy Talbott, W. C. Levengood, and the BLT Research group. Although BLT’s work was eventually briefly mentioned, this was only due to a question asked by a well-informed member of the audience. Go figure. Gritzner found himself unable to acknowledge the possibility that an advanced civilization might choose to initially communicate with a socially complex, nuclear weapon armed, geopolitically unstable, and more primitive civilization (ours) through the beautiful and non-threatening medium of crop circles. All I can say is thank goodness they have had the wisdom to not yet land on the White House lawn, an as-yet-to-come (or some similar) event for which the Jesse A. Marcel Library is attempting to educate and prepare the public. Gritzner also seemed incapable of discerning that it may be the case, and very likely is the case, that many crop circles are, as we should expect, a “monkey-see, monkey-do” human activity. As much as we may dislike being reminded of this, Earth is, after all, still a planet nurturing a majority population of advanced primates – with many still doing their best to act the part.

All the while I was listening to Dr. Gritzner, I kept experiencing the feeling that I was being gently and very skillfully coaxed back into a restrictive enclosure – a dark corral long ago declared necessary by our military / government and intended to contain, as Gritzner would clearly classify our audience, the “True Believers”. I thought to myself, what better way to disrupt or even derail a grassroots effort aimed at raising world consciousness about the UFO, crop circle, and related phenomena than to send a very learned, distinguished, and skillful debunker right into our midst – to “talk some sense into us”. After spending some time with Dr. Gritzner the following morning, and finding myself surprised that he seemed to be apparently uninformed about a number of recently published books and important events (The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, for example) which have lent very solid support to the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis as being the least objectionable explanation for the UFO (the unidentifiables) phenomenon, I went home and Googled “CIA Charles F. Gritzner”. The first page was replete with associations between the CIA World Fact Book and several publications which cited Gritzer’s name as the author. I discovered one reference which seemed to imply that Dr. Gritzner had worked with (for?) the CIA as a geographic analyst from 1953 – 1957. Of course this does not in any way constitute proof that Dr. Gritzner might be working as a professional debunker associated with the CIA, but I invite any reader to Google “CIA and your own name”, and see what comes up.

I was also curious about the term “ghost lights” which Dr. Gritzner frequently mentioned during his lecture. I never really hear anybody in my world talking about “ghost lights”. Wikipedia details almost nothing about “ghost lights”. I find no credible references to publications concerning legitimate “ghost light” research. Maybe it was just me, but I sensed a subtle but detectable intention to associate and, through that association, essentially equate the term “ghost lights” with the term UFOs. From there it is but a short step toward Gritzner’s apparent (paraphrased) conclusion: “Yes, there are ghost lights out there alright, they are very strange and, in many if not most cases, many remain simply inexplicable. We just don’t know what the heck these things could be. But, if we wait them out, we don’t jump to conclusions, and we continue to study them, the (read prosaic) source of each one of them (read UFOs) will finally be revealed.”

Gritzner’s assessment in no way does justice to what is currently known about UnidentifiableFOs. Curiously absent were any statements from Gritzner supporting the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis as the least objectionable explanation for some UFOs. He just did not seem to be comfortable with that very likely explanation. It appears to me that Gritzner remains intellectually constrained by the social shackles of academia, his status as a Distinguished Professor Emeritus, and our society’s imposed and narrow definition of a scientist. Too bad – the world needs people of his stature who are willing to thoroughly educate themselves about what is currently known about UFOs and related phenomena, and then come out on the limb and acknowledge what to many has become the obvious –that we are not alone.

I invite all to consider these words from Dr. John Mack, M.D.:
“It is as if the phenomenon were inviting us to change our ways, to expand our consciousness and ways of learning, to use, in addition to our conventional ways of knowing and observing, methodologies appropriate to its own complex, subtle, and perhaps ultimately unknowable nature.”

What we are studying at the JAML, trying to learn more about, is a highly evolved, obviously intelligent phenomenon, technologically advanced, with its own agenda, that is here observing, and at times interacting with, human civilization. This phenomenon is clearly not volunteering to be captured, weighed, measured, poked, prodded, or otherwise manipulated for scientific study, these methods being the historical and, to-date, widely employed means of acquiring new knowledge by scientists. With regard to the UFO, crop circle, alien abduction, and cattle mutilation phenomena, scientists today face an unfamiliar and unprecedented situation that lies completely outside of their comfort zone – a slowly unfolding realization never before encountered in human history. Our own present day technological advances allow us to only now realize that the contact we are experiencing with these beings is very likely contact with those same “gods” of our ancestors, and the progress of that contact is not going to be governed under terms dictated by man. Anthropocentric reasoning will prove to be a barrier to our further understanding of what is happening. All who approach these phenomena with correct intention will do so with humility and under the full acknowledgement that the Universe is infinite, it is ancient, and it holds many more unknowns, surprises, and profound revelations than we are presently capable of imagining.

If Dr. Gritzner’s sole purpose in meeting with us at the Jesse A. Marcel Library was simply to admonish us, as “True Believers”, to be open-minded skeptics, then we should sincerely thank him for this important reminder, which he delivered more than effectively. We clearly do need this reminder periodically, as we have seen examples of contrary logic occur right on the front porch of the JAML. However, if Dr. Gritzner’s modus operandi is to infiltrate small, grassroots UFO organizations as a solo-flying debunker, or worse, on behalf of the CIA, in an effort to dissuade U.S. citizens from becoming invested in and investigating what are truly the most important unfolding phenomena in human history, then he is on the wrong side of history. The psychological tactics that appeared to pop up throughout his lecture have, without a doubt, in past times, proven quite effective in undermining the curiosity of the uninformed. However, given what we now know to be true about UFOs, crop circles, alien abductions, cattle mutilations etc., through the hard-won, self-funded research accomplished by open-minded and genuine Truth seekers, such tactics are currently rendered defunct, outdated, and, in my opinion, counterproductive toward the continued progress of human civilization and the preservation of Earth’s precious and truly irreplaceable biosphere. Aho.

  1. We lost the most profound thinker about visitation who had enough stature to be listened to when John Mack left us. Before that, he’d just delivered one of the best talks about the circles at the yearly Glastonbury Symposium, and we in the circle world thought he could be the one to make the breakthrough so that the world would examine the evidence that indicates the circles are coming from elsewhere, which indeed is substantiated by the work done by BLTResearch. There are excerpts of that talk in my movie, “What On Earth?,” which does not draw conclusions about where the circles come from but presents a compelling case that it’s not us.

  2. Hi, Richard…

    Sorry to hear this guy turned out to be whatever it is he is. I’ve heard his name somewhere before, but can’t remember where…

    Couple of questions:
    1. What was/is Dr. Gritzner’s area of study/expertise? And where was he employed?
    2. Why did you invite him to speak in the first place?

    Thanks,
    Nancy

  3. Sharon Nichols says:

    Um, this screed is silly in the utmost meaning of the word. I studied with Professor Gritzner and know him quite well. He is not associated with the CIA. The CIA Factbook is a book put together for Congress so those idiots can know something about the nations their (non)actions affect. A geographer DOES geography, i.e., it is not suspicious in the least that a foremost Geography Professor should be involved in writing the country facts & descriptions.

    Dr. Gritzner is a first rate Cultural Geographer who is having fun in his retirement addressing some paranormal topics. As for “Believers” who believe all the paranormal crap out there, I refer you to “Skeptic”, “Skeptical Inquirer”, and “Free Inquiry” which are journals devoted to the scientific discussion & research of paranormal and natural “phenomena”. If I were to do a cultural geographic study of crop circles, Big Foot, or other alleged phenomena, I would start with Where is What, Who promotes it, Why does this topic speak to people?, Also Why is it there in the alleged locations, To what locations has the original idea migrated or diffused, When were the events or sightings, and lastly, So What? (meaning a complete analysis based upon true facts, not conjecture or popular imagination). If you go to the Center for Inquiry, you will find references to newsletters, publications, etc., as well as journals which have scientifically researched these alleged phenomena. Quit worrying about whether Dr. Gritzner is a spy and worry about REAL phenomena & monsters–like our broken Judiciary, Executive, and Legislative branches of government and the so-called leaders (sic) who have betrayed this nation through their intransigence, incompetence, and idiocies.

    • Sharon,
      I agree with your stated political views, and I agree that it is very unlikely (but not out of the realm of possibility) that Dr. Gritzner works as a UFO debunker for the CIA. Rather than being a personal criticism of Dr. Gritzner, who in fact seemed like a very nice, sincere, and honest person, my “screed” is really intended more as a criticism of the mind-set of current day scientists who fail to educate themselves about what is currently known about the UFO, crop circle, alien abduction, and cattle mutilation phenomena. All of these phenomena can be quite neatly explained by invoking but a single premise – that these recurring phenomena (excepting some crop circles) are not coming from us. Rather, they clearly originate from the intellect and the actions of a separate, advanced intelligence that exists, that is here observing Earth and interacting with humanity on a highly selective basis, and is able to do so in ways that are subtle enough that they transpire largely unnoticed by the general populace. There exists a great deal of evidence which clearly indicates that this is indeed the case, but this information is largely discounted or, more often, completely ignored, especially by the mainstream media. Thus, we have otherwise highly educated persons like Dr. Gritzner referring to “ghost lights”, a term which implies that we do not know what UFOs (alien space craft) are, which is clearly a fallacy.
      Your statement “So What?” indicates to me that you have not engaged in deep thought about the profound changes that will occur throughout the foundations of our civilization when the UFO/ET reality becomes fully incorporated into humanity’s collective awareness. If you continue reading “Skeptical Inquirer“, it will take you all the more time to catch up on what is really happening, because that literature is generated by a mind-set that constitutes a significant part of the problem. I direct your attention to the book UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean as a good place to begin learning about many highly credible people describing their personal experiences with UFOs. Robert Salas wrote Faded Giant which is another well documented account of UFOs shutting down U.S. nuclear missiles in the late 1960s. Both of these books can be checked out from the Jesse A. Marcel Library. If you would like more suggestions, then please write back.
      Richard

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